On April 5, 2011, defense attorney Jose Baez gave an interview on a nationally broadcast television station during which he made remarks concerning how he initially became involved in the defense of Casey Anthony, currently on trial for the murder of her two year old daughter, Caylee Anthony.
The comments of Mr. Baez may be heard at the following link.
http://www.myspace.com/565006329/videos/video/107687473
Interviewer: “What made you decide that you wanted to take this case on and then what made you decide to be so committed to it?”
Jose Baez: “Well, heh… heh… unfortunately, I didn’t know what I was getting myself into when I… when I signed onto this case. If… if… if you recall, I was… when I met Casey Anthony… it… she… this case was not uhh…. highly publicized. It grew and grew and grew from there, so… it wasn’t a situation where I knew that this was going to be what it ended up being and umm… and I made a conscious decision, OK, I’m going to do this. Not that I wouldn’t do it uhh… it’s just simply that it was not what I expected it to turn out to be.”
“Well, heh… heh…” – Mr. Baez begins his answer with nervous laughter. Does he find his memories of agreeing to defend a client who brought him to the level of fame he is able to command instant national television access humorous?
“unfortunately” – Mr. Baez finds something about about the circumstances connected to his decision to represent Ms. Anthony to be unfortunate for himself. By preceding his answer with this word, Mr. Baez informs the listeners he is about to reveal the aspect he considers unfortunate.
“I didn’t know what I was getting myself into when I… when I signed onto this case” – This is the unfortunate part of Mr. Baez’s decision. Who is not favored by fortune? Mr. Baez. Why is he not favored by fortune? Because he “didn’t know” what he was getting into. Mr. Baez, a defense attorney who often claims to be competent, admits on national television he didn’t know what he was agreeing to when he took on Ms. Anthony as a client. What exactly did Mr. Baez not know? Ms. Anthony’s character? The charges against her? How to defend a client charged with a crime?
“getting myself into” – There is a hint of denial of personal responsibility in this phrase. Mr. Baez tries to shift the decision from himself for the situation he is in to another, but the other is himself.
“I signed on to this case” – The case is close to Mr. Baez, it is “this case”, not “that” case. Mr. Baez “signed on”, this is his action, not the action of any other, it is entirely his decision, his choice, but it does imply Ms. Anthony asked him to do so.
“If… if… if you recall” – Mr. Baez expects the interviewer to remember minutia about the personal and professional life of himself. Mr. Baez sees himself and his life as worthy of the interest of national news professionals.
“I was… when I met Casey Anthony…” – What was Mr. Baez? Inexperienced? Inept? Unknown? Hungry for fame and fortune? We do not know as he stops himself from completing his thought, but whatever he was when he “met Casey Anthony”, it is not what he believes himself to be today.
“it… she… this case was not uhh…. highly publicized” – Mr. Baez experiences significant trouble formulating this answer as he shifts from one unspeakable thought to another. Mr. Baez is a poor off-the-cuff speaker whose mouth tends to get him into trouble by verbalizing the truth before he can commandeer his tongue to speak his preferred spin. We do not know what “it” or “she” or even “this case was not” as he never finishes speaking these thoughts.
“highly publicized” – The key word is “highly”. Mr. Baez states the case was “publicized”, therefore this was a reason for Mr. Baez signing on which he reveals by speaking the word. Publicity was a factor in his decision. He expected publicity, although the level of publicity surprised him. Money from the client could not have been a factor as the client was penniless and, if Mr. Baez did not expect a national audience, he could not have expected an eventual lucrative licensing agreement for the exclusive use of family photos and videos with a national television broadcaster. Mr. Baez did not take this case for payment in cash, but for payment in local advertising through local media interview opportunities.
“It grew and grew and grew from there” – Although he signed on for publicity, the continued growth of the attention on the case is sensitive to Mr. Baez as shown by his repeating the word “grew” three times. The word “grew” also demonstrates this growth is not within the control of Mr. Baez, he is not able to either stop or start the growth. The public attention on the case is not his to command, although he can take advantage of it as he does by calling this interviewer and receiving virtually immediate air time.
“so… it wasn’t a situation where I knew that this was going to be what it ended up being” – Mr. Baez re-emphasizes he did not know what he was doing when he agreed to take the case, specifically in the area of public interest. He did know the case was receiving local publicity and he knew what he was getting into at that level, but not now that the public interest and attention has grown beyond his control. Mr. Baez distances himself from “this”, which he is close to, and what it has “ended up being” with “that”. He liked it when he was in control, he does not like it now, even though he is utilizing his ability to speak to a national audience as he makes this remark. Notice Mr. Baez tells us what the “situation” was not, but does not tell us what the “situation” was, which is an avoidance of the original question.
“and I made a conscious decision, OK, I’m going to do this” – After telling the listeners a moment before signing on was his decision, Mr. Baez now denies he “made a conscious decision”, implying the decision was subconscious, like his heartbeat or breathing. Again, even though he made the decision, Mr. Baez attempts to shift the responsibility for the decision to someone else, but has no one else to whom to shift it. Mr. Baez wants the audience to believe he did not make the decision to take the case. Who does decide which defendants Mr. Baez represents if not Mr. Baez? The phrasing is extremely interesting as the meaning Mr. Baez wishes to convey depends upon the listener attaching the previously used “not” from “wasn’t” to this portion of the sentence, but the actual wording states “I made a conscious decision, OK, I’m going to do this”, indicating this is exactly what occurred even though Mr. Baez is denying it.
“Not that I wouldn’t do it uhh…” – Mr. Baez flips and flops faster than a frog in a frying pan. First, he didn’t know what he was deciding, then he was not the one making the decision, now he would make the decision even though he did not. Mr. Baez may have realized after uttering the last sentence he sounds like a fool for stating on national television he doesn’t know what he is doing when he decides to represent clients.
“it’s just simply” – Mr. Baez plants a verbal signpost the next phrase will be of the utmost sensitivity to him and will not be “just simply” as he must convince the listeners of the “just simply” prior to his statement.
“that it was not what I expected it to turn out to be” – Mr. Baez begins his simple reason for regretting his decision to represent Ms. Anthony by distancing himself from his own statement with the word “that”. What he is about to say is most likely not true.
“it was not what I expected it to turn out to be” – What about the case is “not what I expected it to turn out to be”? Since Mr. Baez has focused on the publicity tied to the case, the listener probably assumes the national interest and coverage of the case. But, it could be any aspect, from the state bringing charges of murder, to their eventual announcement they sought the death penalty, to the departures of key members of the defense team, to his own disappointing performance in court during the recent hearings. None of this is what Mr. Baez “expected it to turn out to be”. Interesting is his use of the word “was”, a past tense verb. The case “was” not what Mr. Baez expected, but may now be what he currently expects. When did the change in his expectation occur?
We have learned Mr. Baez has regrets about signing on to represent Ms. Anthony, although we did not learn exactly what he regrets or when he began regretting it.
We have learned Mr. Baez told a national television audience he did not know as a lawyer what he was getting himself into when he agreed to take on this client, as close to an admission of professional incompetence as could be given without stating he should not be an attorney.
We have learned Mr. Baez does not like what this case has become through its growth in publicity.
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